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Post by MovieMan8877445 on Aug 19, 2008 15:01:20 GMT -5
Discuss Rorschach In Here.
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Post by SexyChaos on Aug 20, 2008 3:47:20 GMT -5
As you said before he was mystic, but what exactly is so mystical? (Sorry, never read the book and want to learn about the characters)
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Post by MovieMan8877445 on Aug 20, 2008 14:33:39 GMT -5
I Said He Was Mysterious, Not Mystical.
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Post by SexyChaos on Aug 20, 2008 15:55:42 GMT -5
Close enough, lol.  |
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Post by MovieMan8877445 on Aug 20, 2008 17:56:12 GMT -5
No, Because They Mean Two Different Things.
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Post by SexyChaos on Aug 20, 2008 18:23:15 GMT -5
Well, Sorry.  |
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Post by adrianswall on Aug 20, 2008 23:47:23 GMT -5
I'm curious about the cryptic mentions of Rorschachs' father in the book. We never see him (not that we know of anyway) and Walter never met him.
If you read the Psychiatric papers about Rorschach at the end of chapter 6, it mentions that his father's name was "Charlie" but his mother refuses to discuss him or give any pertinent information. She claims not to know his last name (Her son comments of the unlikelihood of this in an essay.) He apparently left Sylvia Kovacs two months before little Walter was born. (So he was with her for at least 7 months.) She later told young Walter that Dad left due to "Political arguments".
I've often wondered if any of this was a clue by Alan Moore regarding Rorschach's father's identity.
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Post by Gligar on Aug 20, 2008 23:49:34 GMT -5
Rorschach is mysterious and awesome!!!!!!! and his face looks like a mudkip  |
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Post by Not a Republic Serial Villain on Aug 21, 2008 0:10:50 GMT -5
I'm curious about the cryptic mentions of Rorschachs' father in the book. We never see him (not that we know of anyway) and Walter never met him. If you read the Psychiatric papers about Rorschach at the end of chapter 6, it mentions that his father's name was "Charlie" but his mother refuses to discuss him or give any pertinent information. She claims not to know his last name (Her son comments of the unlikelihood of this in an essay.) He apparently left Sylvia Kovacs two months before little Walter was born. (So he was with her for at least 7 months.) She later told young Walter that Dad left due to "Political arguments". I've often wondered if any of this was a clue by Alan Moore regarding Rorschach's father's identity. I wouldn't have a clue to the clues Moore left. But Rorschach does say this about his father: "They had a choice, all of them. They could have followed in the footsteps of good men like my father, or President Truman. Decent men, who believed in a day's work for a day's pay." So he obviously believes his father had morals and is following in his footsteps. |
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Post by adrianswall on Aug 21, 2008 8:13:54 GMT -5
Yes, Rorschach has built up an image of his father in his head as a paragon of integrity. As a kid, he imagined his father was either traveling as a US spy or had died fighting the Nazis. I guess its to compensate for his anger at his mother, who he detested. He liked to think the absent parent was perfect.
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Post by Walter Kovacs on Aug 23, 2008 23:26:21 GMT -5
what I dont understand about rorschach is why he says he fully became rorschach when he killed the dog. can anyone explain this to me?
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Post by adrianswall on Aug 24, 2008 18:16:08 GMT -5
He explains his transformation fully into Rorschach on page 26 of issue 6, while talking to the psychiatrist. After the shock of seeing a child butchered and fed to dogs, he was hit by the sudden cold realization that we lived in an unjust, Godless universe, and it was up to mortal men to fight evil and punish the guilty because there was no divine being to dispense justice for us. Killing the dogs was his first act of murder. The first time he became judge and jury.
He tells the psychiatrist how he punished the child's killer and burned down his building. He said..."Felt cleansed. Felt dark planet turn under my feet and knew what cats know that makes them screams like babies in the night. Looked at the sky, through smoke heavy with human fat and God was not there! The cold,, suffocating dark goes on forever and we are alone! Live our lives lacking anything better to do. Devise reasons later. Born from oblivion; bear children as hell-bound as ourselves; Go into oblivion! There is nothing else! Existence is random, has no pattern save what we imagine after staring at it too long. No meaning save what we give it. The rudderless world is not shaped by metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or feeds them to dogs. It's us. Only us. Streets stank of fire. The void breathed hard on my heart, turning its illusions to ice, shattering them. Was reborn, then! Free to scrawl my own design on this morally blank world. Was Rorschach!"
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Post by Rorschach on Sept 1, 2008 11:15:14 GMT -5
Does anyone have any idea where the quote on his movie poster is from?
"You know what I wish? I wish all the scum of the earth had one throat and I had my hands about it."
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Post by adrianswall on Sept 1, 2008 15:31:17 GMT -5
The line doesn't actually appear in the book. It was part of the promotional material from when the story first came out. (It was either a poster or a T-shirt. I can't recall.) I read that this line was in an earlier draft of the book but was cut from the final version. But the promotion had been prepared before the final editing and so the line was used regardless of its being cut from the story.
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Post by Rorschach on Sept 14, 2008 19:02:18 GMT -5
Ah, okay then. Thanks.
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